Comments on: Where is the “Now available in Fedora” button for OpenJDK http://iquaid.org/2008/04/28/where-is-the-now-available-in-fedora-button-for-openjdk/ ... the four laws of humanity ... Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:25:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: i, quaid › OpenJDK installation instructions for Fedora - now on openjdk.java.net http://iquaid.org/2008/04/28/where-is-the-now-available-in-fedora-button-for-openjdk/#comment-2056 i, quaid › OpenJDK installation instructions for Fedora - now on openjdk.java.net Tue, 20 May 2008 00:03:48 +0000 http://iquaid.org/?p=70#comment-2056 [...] also brings full circle the question I raised in another post, “Where is the “Now available in Fedora” button for OpenJDK.” It’s right there on the front page. (Also posted on Dev Fu.) This was written by [...] [...] also brings full circle the question I raised in another post, “Where is the “Now available in Fedora” button for OpenJDK.” It’s right there on the front page. (Also posted on Dev Fu.) This was written by [...]

]]> By: Mark Wielaard http://iquaid.org/2008/04/28/where-is-the-now-available-in-fedora-button-for-openjdk/#comment-1842 Mark Wielaard Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:11:35 +0000 http://iquaid.org/?p=70#comment-1842 Note that openjdk was already available with Fedora 8, the package in Fedora 9 is just improved and now comes with powerpc support, webstart, better imaging, better compliance with the 1.6 api (fedora 8 had the newer, but unstable 1.7 api). It was just not allowed to be called that way, so the packages are called icedtea [*]. The new Fedora 9 packages are called openjdk, but they come from the same source. So you can certainly also give instructions for Fedora 8 it you feel it needs to be only for the stable release. [*] See the new trademark license at http://openjdk.java.net/legal/openjdk-trademark-notice.html that allows icedtea to be branded openjdk now. Note that openjdk was already available with Fedora 8, the package in Fedora 9 is just improved and now comes with powerpc support, webstart, better imaging, better compliance with the 1.6 api (fedora 8 had the newer, but unstable 1.7 api). It was just not allowed to be called that way, so the packages are called icedtea [*]. The new Fedora 9 packages are called openjdk, but they come from the same source. So you can certainly also give instructions for Fedora 8 it you feel it needs to be only for the stable release.

[*] See the new trademark license at http://openjdk.java.net/legal/openjdk-trademark-notice.html that allows icedtea to be branded openjdk now.

]]> By: quaid http://iquaid.org/2008/04/28/where-is-the-now-available-in-fedora-button-for-openjdk/#comment-1841 quaid Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:10:38 +0000 http://iquaid.org/?p=70#comment-1841 Thanks for the follow-up, folks. I'll do these: * Talk with those who know and get a set of instructions for installing OpenJDK under Fedora 9. * Make a version for EPEL 5, noting that it is a testing repo. * Make a patch for the appropriate opendjk.java.net pages. Regarding the idea of waiting for shipping software versions v. releasing early. I know there are different thought camps here, but with OpenJDK's large developer audience, won't they like access to the latest and greatest? There have been live CD/DVD/Flash thumb drive versions of Fedora with OpenJDK 6 available for more than a month. Live images are a great way to test tools. The <a href="http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-April/msg00010.html" rel="nofollow">preview release of Fedora 9 available right now</a> is 99% of what is going to be in Fedora 9. Similar with the <a href="http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/testing/5/i386/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.7.b08.el5.2.i386.rpm" rel="nofollow">package in EPEL testing</a>, do we have to wait for it to leave testing to post installation instructions? Not having this information means more people are not enjoying the benefits of the open source process. Thanks for the follow-up, folks. I’ll do these:

* Talk with those who know and get a set of instructions for installing OpenJDK under Fedora 9.

* Make a version for EPEL 5, noting that it is a testing repo.

* Make a patch for the appropriate opendjk.java.net pages.

Regarding the idea of waiting for shipping software versions v. releasing early. I know there are different thought camps here, but with OpenJDK’s large developer audience, won’t they like access to the latest and greatest? There have been live CD/DVD/Flash thumb drive versions of Fedora with OpenJDK 6 available for more than a month. Live images are a great way to test tools. The preview release of Fedora 9 available right now is 99% of what is going to be in Fedora 9. Similar with the package in EPEL testing, do we have to wait for it to leave testing to post installation instructions?

Not having this information means more people are not enjoying the benefits of the open source process.

]]> By: Mark Reinhold http://iquaid.org/2008/04/28/where-is-the-now-available-in-fedora-button-for-openjdk/#comment-1840 Mark Reinhold Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:44:34 +0000 http://iquaid.org/?p=70#comment-1840 We already plan to post similar installation instructions, as well as highlight the Fedora logo on the main page, when Fedora 9 ships. We already plan to post similar installation instructions, as well as highlight the Fedora logo on the main page, when Fedora 9 ships.

]]> By: spot http://iquaid.org/2008/04/28/where-is-the-now-available-in-fedora-button-for-openjdk/#comment-1839 spot Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:07:50 +0000 http://iquaid.org/?p=70#comment-1839 Karsten, I have contacts at Sun who have been begging us for this for some time now. If you can whip this document up, I can pass it along (or I can just give you the contact info of someone at Sun). Karsten, I have contacts at Sun who have been begging us for this for some time now. If you can whip this document up, I can pass it along (or I can just give you the contact info of someone at Sun).

]]> By: Mark Wielaard http://iquaid.org/2008/04/28/where-is-the-now-available-in-fedora-button-for-openjdk/#comment-1838 Mark Wielaard Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:01:55 +0000 http://iquaid.org/?p=70#comment-1838 Could you send the exact instructions, the logo to use (and preferably in html as patch against that webpage) to web-discuss@openjdk.java.net And maybe you also know the magic incantation to get it for users of EPEL (who has a fedora build of openjdk6 available too). Could you send the exact instructions, the logo to use (and preferably in html as patch against that webpage) to web-discuss@openjdk.java.net

And maybe you also know the magic incantation to get it for users of EPEL (who has a fedora build of openjdk6 available too).

]]> By: Kevin Fenzi http://iquaid.org/2008/04/28/where-is-the-now-available-in-fedora-button-for-openjdk/#comment-1836 Kevin Fenzi Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:51:45 +0000 http://iquaid.org/?p=70#comment-1836 It's also worth noting that OpenJDK is also now available in the EPEL 5 testing repository, so RHEL/CentOS using folks can easily install it from there. ;) It’s also worth noting that OpenJDK is also now available in the EPEL 5 testing repository, so RHEL/CentOS using folks can easily install it from there. ;)

]]> By: Andrew Overholt http://iquaid.org/2008/04/28/where-is-the-now-available-in-fedora-button-for-openjdk/#comment-1835 Andrew Overholt Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:38:31 +0000 http://iquaid.org/?p=70#comment-1835 Hi Karsten, We have plenty of contacts at Sun. Talk to Andrew Haley or Tom Fitzsimmons or Mark Wielaard, etc. HTH, Andrew Hi Karsten,

We have plenty of contacts at Sun. Talk to Andrew Haley or Tom Fitzsimmons or Mark Wielaard, etc.

HTH,

Andrew

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