This morning we had a productive teleconference about Fedora marketing. We’ve got a group of interested, motivated, passionate, and experienced marketeers at Red Hat who want to help Fedora marketing. The teleconf was a chance for us to do some ideating about how to introduce that group into Fedora as leaders and doers.
A pause to consider the term ‘marketing’. Does that word bother you? What does it mean to mix the words ‘marketing’ and ‘Fedora’?
To start, I intend to use the word marketing. Marketing, marketing, marketing. Get used to it.
There is a temptation to use another word because marketing has so many different meanings to different people. Especially in the view where one group tries to control or deeply influence the message, it is hard to give up the control of what you are doing to the imaginations of others about what ‘marketing’ is.
But I say, call an egg an egg. The main reason is, it is honest. It is also accurate, as what we are doing is what most people mean when they use the word ‘marketing’. That means that with one simple word, we convey to the largest group of people the nature of our group’s undertaking.
Another reason is to weed out the nay-sayers. These are the folks who are going to hate what you are doing because of the word you use. Let’s be honest — you really don’t want them around poisoning your efforts. Give them a word to chew on in the corner.
In my experience, people who “hate sales” or “hate marketing” have a serious challenge ahead of them in finding success (bigger project, more contributors, more money, whatever.) You can hate an individual or personality type of practitioner of the art of sales and marketing, but that doesn’t devalue the skillset and tasks.
All that is a long way of saying that I welcome our marketing brothers and sisters. Your help is much appreciated and needed. Personally, I’m a total novice at this. I just follow my heart and my gut, in that order.
I’m with you on that. I await your email about the steps forward on the marketing list which I’m hopeful will be useful apart from a news list.
Great news, hope to hear more soon. Meeting with Leigh Day at FUDCon was one of the best parts of the day.
Can’t wait to hear more about this — and meet up with the Marketing folks down in RDU in a couple weeks.
Karsten, I’m totally digging this and everything that you’re doing to get Leigh and the other marketing people into Fedora, but can we please make sure it gets done in the open and community retains its importance? i.e. perhaps we should be doing this on the list, as any new member of marketing would have to do?
Like you I’m a novice at this and I’m looking forward to seeing how the pros do it, but I do want to stay involved and not get completely sidelined; otherwise (from a completely selfish point of view) I’m just not going to be able to learn much at all! Not to say that I’m planning on going into marketing as a career, but learning about anything rocks my socks.
Anyway, keep up the good work, but please can we keep this in the open and not sideline the community?
My best wishes to all!
Jon is 100% right, and that is exactly what is happening. We are being kind, though, and had the initial meeting internally with a specific first goal of getting everyone comfortable with how we are working in the open.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-January/msg00233.html
That is the call for the first meeting, and it’s all about repeating what we discussed internally so that it is owned by the community, and starting from there.
It’s OK for small, smart groups of people to have a sidebar, generate ideas, and take them back to the larger group for input and decisions. That is what we can expect to see from this group, as we see in other parts of Fedora. In the end, open and visibly accountable is the rule of the day.